Reflecting on Macedonia’s name dispute

Posted by Demitri, Private citizen on July 14th, 2010
Organization: Private citizen
In reaction to the EurActiv article:

Macedonia name dispute inspires exotic idea

Sir,

Regarding ‘Macedonia name dispute inspires exotic idea‘:

It is not true that “Macedonia is recognised as the country’s constitutional name by all EU countries except Greece”.

In addition, it states that “most Europeans find the Greek position puzzling or irrational”. It is impossible to know exactly what most Europeans think. No-one can read minds.

I would like to draw attention to past violent conflicts over this exact issue.

1. “The Department would appreciate any information pertinent to this subject which may come to your attention. Department of State”. (U.S State Department Foreign Relations Vol. VIII Washington D.C. Circular Airgram – 868.014/26 Dec. 1944) http:// tinyurl.com

2. “And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”

3. http://www.life.com/image/50774476http://www.life.com/image/50774469http://www.life.com/image/50774470.

4. Krste Crvenkovski (president of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia) to Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967. http://tinyurl.com/y2n846j

5. Many prominent IMRO members aligned with the Axis for the sake of “united Macedonia”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Mihail…
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrana

 http://nationalpride.files.wordpress.com…

6. FYROM nationalists used to freely self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians a century ago.

FYROM national hero Krste Misirkov said: “We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves [...] And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?”
 http://www.misirkov.org/kpm_zmr_eng.htm

7. “The creation of the ‘Macedonian’ nation, for almost half of a century, was done in a condition of single-party dictatorship. In those times, there was no difference between science and ideology, so the ‘Macedonian’ historiography, unopposed by anybody, comfortably performed a selection of the historic material from which the ‘Macedonian’ identity was created. There is nothing atypical here for the process of the creation of any modern nation, except when falsification from the type of substitution of the word ‘Bulgarian’ with the word ‘Macedonian’ were made.”
(Denko Maleski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of FYROM from 1991 to 1993 in an interview to FYROM newspaper Utrinski Vesnik; 16 October, 2006)

8. 19th century census data from the region.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic…

9. Conflicting ethnic narratives of FYROM politicians (today they portray themselves as direct descendants, thus implying that ‘Macedonia Greece’ is occupied. Ten years ago they claimed the opposite).

10. ‘We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great’ (FYROM Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka in speech to US representatives in Washington on 22 January, 1999).

11. ‘We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian’ (FYROM Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov in an interview with Ottawa Citizen newspaper, 24 February 1999).

12. “We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century [...] We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians” (Kiro Gligorov, FYROM’s first president, to Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, 26 February 1992).

13. The ancient and modern region of Macedonia are not the same. FYROM is situated primarily in ancient Paoenia.
 http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-lett…

14. What about the identity rights of Macedonians in Greece? What if FYROM nationalists claim to be “ethnic Athenians” next? Do Greeks have no identity rights?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Maced…

15. What about the countless “united Macedonia” references being spread by FYROM nationalists?

Demitri

Private citizen

7 Responses to Reflecting on Macedonia’s name dispute »»

  1. Comment by Demetris C | 2010/07/15 at 18:44:38

    Well done Demetri ..Very nice thoughts.
    What about the Greek – Macedonians?
    After all the people living in FYROM have nothing in common with Alexander the Great..although they claim to be Macedonians.
    The only common thing they have is the land they step on.
    Greeks share Macedonia and Bulgarians too..(a small part in Kossovo)
    People living in FYROM claim to be the only Real Macedonians.
    A newly born state..came to steal history of the Greeks.
    If Macedonians were not Greeks..then why they were participating in Olympic games?
    Macedonians were Greeks..And people in Scopje are Slavo-Macedonians.(Mix of Bulgarians , Albanians ,Scopjans)

  2. Comment by Anastasia | 2010/07/15 at 20:35:56

    Bravo!

  3. Comment by Onur | 2010/07/16 at 09:49:35

    Finally some facts and not just opinions.

  4. Comment by Levo | 2010/07/18 at 08:46:55

    Greece paradoxically is seemingly afraid of losing her soul by comically attempting to influence the way a people would like to name ‘their’ nation, namely MACEDONIA! Perhaps right about now along with the billions of Euros of bailout money handed to Athens that the EU must be realizing what a great mistake it was to allow Greece into their fold.

    Apart from making ‘irrational demands’ regarding names of other countries Greece has only received generous funds from the EU while doing nothing in return.

  5. Comment by Greek taxpayer | 2010/07/22 at 12:02:30

    This is exactly the kind of diatribe that makes the rest of the world think we Greeks are lunatics on the Macedonia issue…

  6. Comment by Dan Kustudich | 2010/08/07 at 03:34:59

    At the begining of the second decade of the 21-st century, it is wastful to argue about these very minor differences between various ethnic groups on the Balkan peninsula. Instead, people whould start working to find a common, empathic way of living in cooperative and mutually beneficial way to all of them. These various divisions , squabbles and acts of aggression are helping only the “warlord” vultures who profit from these conflicts.
    So, realize that in spite of all the differences in language, music and other “custom” of various groups, they all need a constructive cooperation on the basis of mutually economic improvements – through exchange of various talents, resources and regions – through the acts of fairness in dealing with each others’ needs and contributions. Dan Kustudich

  7. Comment by PANTELIS | 2010/09/02 at 12:36:25

    Very well written and supported!
    It is the only way to speak or write with facts!


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