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Turkey must repent

Sir,

Regarding ‘Miliband: Turning Turkey away from EU ‘unconscionable’‘:

In response to UK Foreign Secretary David Miliband’s comments regarding Turkey’s integration into the EU, allow me to state below what U.S. Ambassador James Gerald once wrote:

“The Turks should not be accepted into the society of decent nations until they show sincere repentance for their crimes. Fraternising with them on any other terms creates the suspicion of sordidness and complicity.”

Dimocritos

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  1. I am with you on substance, but quoting a US diplomat is not helpful.

    Unfortunately, the USA have never come to terms with the two large crimes in their history: slavery and the near extinction of the native Americans.

    They might just not be the right people to lecture anyone on decency.

  2. Your commentators dismiss at a stroke the fact that Turkey should not be allowed to join the European Union at stroke. We must allow Turkey to join, for if it was not so allowed it will move inexorably towards a full-bodied Islamic state and thus away from the founding tenets of Ataturk’s bequest for a secular state

    We need each other and I am proud to say that as a European Citizen and a UK Citizen that there is no valid question as to why Turkey should not join.

  3. Can you please clarify the crimes that were committed by Turkey?
    You might claim the Armenian issue which is still considered disputed and one sided for many people? Instead of having biased opinion we should ground our arguments on facts and draw conclusions accordingly…

  4. If Turkey is so guilty on every crime against humanity. Then who’s going to explain the barbaric invasion and genocide of fellow Azerbaijan by Armenian forces or the racist policies and propaganda applied by “civilized” Europeans against the Roma population. I guess, I do not have to mention about the extreme nationalism of France on the Corsican issue.
    If there is someone to repent of their crimes; the essential ones should come from the countries of the Western imperialism
    History will absolve the innocent one.

  5. Turkey in EU? Why not Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran…. there is NO difference, all are full of love toward Christians….

  6. To Dimocritos:
    James W Gerard comment was in 1926 and he is the victim of Armenian propaganda.
    Let me quote A Greek your fellow countryman, Antonis Angastiniotis 2004
    It was The Greek Cypriots of the Neighbouring villages, along with army
    personnel, attacked these villages. They shot the children, the mothers and any old people of these villages, 126 people who were killed, human rights Greek activist Antonis Angastiniotis had called on the Greek Cypriot people to apologize to the Turkish Cypriot people, prosecute the culprits and pay compensation to the families of the deceased.

  7. We dont find not even one case in Europe, Asia or Africa where the submission to the turkish ruling by one country didnt follow a reduction in material and educational level. There is also no case where the libeation from the turkish yoke didnt lead to a high material and cultural elevation, either within christians or within muslims. The Turk never contibuted but only to destruction. He never proved capable to develop in peace that which he conquered in war.
    George Clemenceau
    Prime-minister 1919

    That is quite a record turkey has no other country can claim it, and we can still find it by comparing North Cyprus and South Cyprus and also Southeast Turkey and North Iraq.

    As for a highlights list of crimes created by Turkey starting from its formating years
    – Genocide of at least 2.000.000 christians in Anatolia (mostly Armenians but also Greeks, Assyrians, Syrians and others) and ethnic cleansing so that they can have the territory of today Turkey.
    – Istanbul pogrom 1955 aimed against Greeks mostly but armenians and jews also.
    – Creation and organization of paramilitary Türk Mukavemet Te?kilat? (TMT) which was organized so that through directing the intercommunal fights of Cyprus, Turkey could invade and divide Cyprus.
    – Invasion of cyprus which actually happen mostly in August not in Juli, (so the pretext of enosis with Greece is bogus). Ethnic cleansing of north Cyprus and 10000 Greek Cypriots dead, while they raped, looted, and killed civilians.
    – Crimes at ethnic Kurds by displacing them from the Southeast and other hate crimes.
    – Turkey never has respected International Laws it always tries to act outside the boundaries of them.
    – The orthodox ecumenical patriarchate of Istanbul is also slowly dying under the Turkish rule. Also it does not respect any minorities in general.

    Conclusion
    Turkey is a ultra-nationalistic christianophobic nation who always likes to dominate on others just like Islam. Doesn’t respect universal morals and laws but it ignores them completly. Believe me it will be impossible to find a country in Europe that is continously as evil as Turkey. And no I don’t think it will change in the future either, the dialogue and accesion talks won’t change it at the core.

  8. As Turkish citizens, we have come across extremely unfair treatments because of the ignorance and hatred of EU countries against us. As opposed to the common idea that the Turks are barbarians, beasts and destructors, we are not any more destructive than a typical mediterranean country!

    Let us start with common delusions:

    1- “Turkey is a ultra-nationalistic christianophobic nation who always likes to dominate on others just like Islam”: The Republic of Turkey has been secular since its establishment in 1923, long before most EU members. The religion of the individuals is a personal affair and any trial of religious enforcement is a crime. Personally, I can cleary declare being an atheist in Turkey. Turkey is not a society formed by uniform-homogenous people. The percentage of nationalists according to the last elections(2007) is around 20%.

    2- “Genocide of at least 2.000.000 christians in Anatolia (mostly Armenians but also Greeks, Assyrians, Syrians and others) and ethnic cleansing so that they can have the territory of today Turkey.”: Nobody seems to consider the villages burned by Armenians cooperating with Russian Army! This is a historical issue that is still unrevealed. The 1915 issue is in the history of Ottoman Empire which is before the establishment of Turkish Republic. It is totally absurd to consider today’s generation responsible for what happened almost 100 years back!

    3- “Ethnic cleansing of north Cyprus and 10000 Greek Cypriots dead, while they raped, looted, and killed civilians.”: or the other way around? Could the Turkish population in Cyprus(Around 100,000 in 1974) have been exposed to a ethnical cleansing stage by EOKA? Oh sorry they are not worth mentioning.

    4- “Crimes at ethnic Kurds by displacing them from the Southeast and other hate crimes.”: Who told you that they are replaced from southeast:)) If so, where did they go?

    5- “The orthodox ecumenical patriarchate of Istanbul is also slowly dying under the Turkish rule. Also it does not respect any minorities in general.”: The minorities are far more respected in Turkey than in any EU countries. Please ground your statements.

    6- “Believe me it will be impossible to find a country in Europe that is continously as evil as Turkey. And no I don’t think it will change in the future either, the dialogue and accesion talks won’t change it at the core.”: Like they haven’t changed the racists in itself!

  9. @ Yoda, What a solid argumentation no educated person can overcome them. Europe is so unfair to always point Turkey’s flaws and not accept it as it is. But well here I will do it again.
    1) If you are an atheist, you are only the 3% of the population since all the others believe in god or are fully devouted and so on (Eurobarometer poll 2005). As how many christians there are it is estimated at 0,13%. While in the middle east, meaning even easter than turkey, usually the percentage is at 2%-3% (BBC 2005). Even Iran same amount of population has 0,5 to 1%. So you are full of love for the christians, I can see that!!!
    2) Turkish military started the genocide. The regime of Sultan Abdul Hamid in 1896 ordered a massive campaign of killing, in which at least 200,000 Armenians died. Though one of the most atrocious imperial acts of the 19th century, it was merely a harbinger of the fullscale genocide that was to descend two decades later (Gendercide.org). And then the Young Turks regime in 1908-1909 again attacked at the armenians. And in 1915 the outright extermination started and you are saying that Armenians are to blame for finally fighting against you in the WWI. The institution of genocides has agreed that the armenian killing was a genocide.
    While you are not personally responsible, recognition and repent against 4 genocides is long overdue. By not recognizing it makes you blind or complicit of allowing this behaviour. Either way, in that case, you dont politically belong in EU.
    3) Typical turkish reaction when they hear the unjust crimes Turkey did on the island. Here you show your countries moronic nationalistic lies. Akritas plan according to Turks was an extermination plan for the Cypriot Turks while for any other country in the world it was a plan to legally lead to enosis of the island to Greece. As for extermination, where is the Greek population of the two Turkish north aegean islands and istanbul, from 175000 to 5000. I guess Greece according to turkish arguments, should have attacked at the islands in order to protect the greek population there! Greece and Cyprus got in EU without a problem while Turkey waits outside for a long time, since 1987. UN did not condemn Cyprus it condemned Turkey. Not even Islamic countries accept your Turkish Rebublic of North Cyprus. The world knows the truth about who is the guilty and who is the legally right.
    4) About 400000 ethnic Kurds where displaced from south east Turkey to istanbul and west anatolia in order to mix more with the Turks and not to take part in PKK or any other organization for the kurdish nation. That is how the turkish population was created by ethnic mixing while supressing ones identity. In the times of the ottoman empire the name Turk included all muslims that lived in the ottoman empire.
    5)Ground my statements? As if all the international reports about minority rights being abused in Turkey are not heard by you!! Search and you shall find within seconds. The only recognized minorities are the armenian and the greek one and that because of what happened in the WWI. And even they are not properly protected. Kurds, Zazas, Lazs, Circassians and many other ethnic groups do live in Turkey but they don’t have official minority status.
    And the statement about the Ecumenical Patriachate one can also find enough information abou it. When Turkey doesn’t open halki theological school and you don’t accept Greek or for that matter even French or European clergy to take position in the church then in 1 generation it can die.
    6) Your comments proved Turkey is not fit to have political power within EU. If it goes in it is only a matter of time before EU breaks off. Turkey is not ready at all, it is too nationalistic and doesnt represent european values with its behaviour. Europe knows it when is Turkey going to understand that it either changes or it remains an outsider with names like barbarians, warmongers and genocide deniers.

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